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When rehoming - should you charge a lot more than what you paid?

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Post  Angelboys3 Thu Apr 14, 2011 4:20 pm

Ok, I have a question and want some opinions on it. Say you buy a dog and then 3 months later decide you want to sell it for whatever reason. Is it really right to charge double what you paid for full AKC? I have a friend who bred a dog and would love to get her back since the person decided they don't want her anymore, but they can't afford it with what she is charging, plus the shipping back home. I would think the original breeder should at least be able to pay what they sold the dog for in the first place, but that's just me. Opinions?
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Post  Proud Lake Dachshunds Thu Apr 14, 2011 7:41 pm

If it's not in their contract regarding how a return is handled, the person selling the dog can sell it for whatever they like to whomever they like. My contract states that I get first option to get the dog back for no more than the original sale price if the dog is a finished champion and for no charge at all if not. Here's the clause in my contract:

7. If at any time during this dog's life the Owner chooses not to keep the dog, the Co-owner has first choice to purchase the dog back for no more than the original purchase price if finished and if the dog is not finished it is to be returned at no charge to Co-owner. Co-owner is not obligated to purchase the dog back. If the Co-owner does not purchase the dog back, the dog is to be sold under the same conditions as it was purchased under by the Owner.

This is why a contract is so important and you need to cover everything you can think of. It protects both parties and makes expectations very clear. I had someone who thought my contract had too many rules, but I'd rather have too many rules that I can waive in writing, if I choose, than not enough and have misunderstandings and hard feelings later. In this case, the person would have to offer the dog back to me first, if I don't want the dog back, the owner can place the dog, and I'm assured that what "rules" I intended are passed to the next owner as well.

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Post  Admin Thu Apr 14, 2011 10:01 pm

Wow.....this post could be about me....LMBO!!!
I sold a dog last fall....my black & cream male to someone and I just asked them to pay shipping on him and then they could pay for him after they got their taxes back this spring. They paid $400 for him plus the shipping last fall. Now they are threatening to sell him and want $800 for him and shipping.....this is just ethically wrong and she pulled the slip on me and never signed my contract nor sent it to me like she was suppose to and then threw this in my face....which in turn led me to believe that she did this all on purpose and knew what she was doing. She also bred him to 2 or 3 of her females while he was in my name. I however will not sign off of the litters now for her either. I also found out that she has done this to another breeder that most of us know.
Just not nice.....just not nice!! mad mad
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Post  Proud Lake Dachshunds Thu Apr 14, 2011 10:45 pm

I'd like the name and kennel name of BOTH breeders, please. You can PM me, but I like to know who is out there scamming people. I'm unlikely to sell to them anyway, but I keep the information to warn friends.

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Post  Angelboys3 Thu Apr 14, 2011 11:16 pm

I like your clause! That would save a lot of headache!

I already knew this breeder was bad news, but didn't realize my friend had sold her a dog until it was too late to warn her. What makes it so bad is she didn't even tell her she was selling her, she just saw her on fb for sale Evil or Very Mad
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Post  doxiesmom Fri Apr 15, 2011 9:13 am

I would also like to know who the breeders are. It is people like this that give breeders a bad name. I am almost to the point of not selling to breeders at all unless I really know and trust them.
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Post  Admin Fri Apr 15, 2011 11:10 am

I'm not afraid to post it public.....if she wants to come after me......let her!!
The gal is not really a breeder that has done this to me but she does have a website and I am still not sure what is going on now.....she has blocked me from reaching her and contacting her. I see on her site that she has kept Bailey and 1 of her females but sold the other 4 females that she had.....from what it looks like! DO NOT DEAL with her.......she is a very smooth talker and makes you take pity on her and then reels you in just to screw you. She was soooo nasty to me after I sent her Bailey's papers.....she turned into Dr. Jeckel & Mr. Hide on me!!
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Post  Proud Lake Dachshunds Fri Apr 15, 2011 12:29 pm

Oh boy. I remember either Katie or Jen Thon posting something about her recently too. Not good.

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Post  Admin Fri Apr 15, 2011 5:40 pm

It was Katie!
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Post  D&A Mini Doxies Fri Apr 15, 2011 7:39 pm

Karen, I had her on facebook and she would post on every status I made LOL until recently when she did what she did. Anyway, I looked at her facebook yesterday and she still has Bailey and two of her other dachshunds because she posted pictures of them....I commented on one of the photos and she told me she was keeping Bailey and one of her other females because they are the calm ones that don't bother the rabbits....she still has one other female she literally just bought from somebody else and said she is up for sale so if someone wants her they can have her, but if she stays she stays. I deleted her after that....boy some people! She told me some strange stories about how she would hold her puppies mouths shut if they were barking or carrying on until they stopped to "teach" them to be quiet....I was like are you serious? They are 5-8 week old puppies of course they are going to be noisy and carry on!. She also told me about how she cleaned her house and put the dogs in their crates, and she put Bailey in his crate in the closet, and then later on when she let the dogs out she thought she lost Bailey and couldn't find him and called the police and animal control and everything to be on the lookout for him. She heard him barking the next morning, and she found him still in the closet in his crate with the lights off.....weird lady

Sorry didn't know if I should have said all that stuff out in the open, just delete it if you think it shouldn't be up LOL

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Post  Admin Fri Apr 15, 2011 10:59 pm

OMG......she is a crazy person!! You didn't mention any names so you are fine!!
My poor baby!! I have someone now watching her. My friend Rena in WA has tons of friends and friends that run shelters.....everyone is on the lookout and she is being watched. If he leaves her place.....I will know! whistle
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Post  littletinydachz Sat Apr 16, 2011 7:51 pm

Why does this Elizabeth Packett lady sound familiar to me too??Maybe I've heard the stories..
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Post  MydogZeldaLouise Wed Apr 20, 2011 1:08 am

Poor Bailey!!

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Post  Admin Wed Apr 20, 2011 1:31 am

Well the breeder Angie is referring to is also one that I have had major problems with!!! Many breeders have had major problems with her!!! So that is really no surprise to me.

Bailey is still with her and she is gonna keep him from what I have been able to find out. She kept him and one other female and sold or placed all the rest or her dogs! She will probably keep him cause he is an exceptionally sweet boy and a good boy in the house!! As long as she cares for him. I still would love to get him back and maybe some day I can afford her price and get him back. Just gonna pray she treats him good. Sad
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Post  AlaskanLowrider Wed Apr 20, 2011 4:57 pm

Personally, I think its wrong to ask more than what you paid for. I also think the breeder should be made aware of the decision to rehome and giving first choice to get the puppy back for 1/2 or less than the original fee - its not the breeders fault the dachshund isn't working out for them.

Like in the case of Jax, he went oversized for what I am looking for. I contacted his breeder and asked if she wanted him back just for the shipping which is a 1/3 of what I paid - she didn't want him bouncing around and couldn't use him so gave me permission to rehome him and try to recoup some of my expense. I would never of thought to ask for the same or higher fee from her. Needless to say I used him anyway...twice on purpose and one oops. He is having 1 more litter and being fixed then placed either with my parents (free) or a person on my waiting list wanting an older dachshund (2-300) - I hate to part with him but I do need to make room to keep back a puppy out of next years litters and he just won't work with any of my new girls.


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